In this episode, the team discusses how an unhealthy relationship with perfection impacts the ability to navigate the tension between having high standards and accepting that everyone needs an opportunity to learn and grow, and thus requires compassion. Development necessitates that leaders offer compassion and maintain realistic standards as others show vulnerability in the midst of trying new things. Each episode features a quote of the week, big takeaways, and a Growing Together segment geared at imperfect leaders who are seeking development in their leadership potential.

Quote of the Week:
“Empathy is a choice, and it’s a vulnerable choice, because in order to connect with you, I have to connect with something in myself that knows that feeling.” —Empathy vs. Sympathy, Brené Brown

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Host & Guests

  • Paul Stiver
  • Naty Severson
  • Kaelyn Larson

Sound Engineer – Austin Sego
Technical support – Nolan Bauer